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		By: Living the Liminal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When the Doctor Dissappoints		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Living the Liminal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When the Doctor Dissappoints]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] level of storytelling seems to have declined and too often we are seeing episodes that depend on specious plot points or random &#8220;magical&#8221; solutions that have no impact on the characters in any moral way. Almost immediately, in the subsequent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] level of storytelling seems to have declined and too often we are seeing episodes that depend on specious plot points or random &#8220;magical&#8221; solutions that have no impact on the characters in any moral way. Almost immediately, in the subsequent [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: darknote		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darknote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you can thank lawrence miles for his thoughts on &lt;em&gt;Planet of the Ood&lt;/em&gt; for helping this come to light for me.  And i agree that series one in general had much more complex story lines and focused more on the story rather than the spectacle, and even when there was spectacle it didn&#039;t seem contrived or took precedence over the story.  It wasn&#039;t until series two that it really started to take shape.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can thank lawrence miles for his thoughts on <em>Planet of the Ood</em> for helping this come to light for me.  And i agree that series one in general had much more complex story lines and focused more on the story rather than the spectacle, and even when there was spectacle it didn&#8217;t seem contrived or took precedence over the story.  It wasn&#8217;t until series two that it really started to take shape.</p>
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		By: Living the Liminal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Darknote&#8217;s Notes on Doctor Who		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Living the Liminal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Darknote&#8217;s Notes on Doctor Who]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] mutli-episode stories in the New Who Â» darkblog resonate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] mutli-episode stories in the New Who Â» darkblog resonate [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: LtL		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LtL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been trying to put my finger on my dissatisfaction with the series over the past few years and you helped me put some of my thoughts in perspective . . . so thanks!

I do think that the first series of the new Who felt more like a science fiction television series - the stories depended far more on the characters and their motivations than on simply solutions to complex problems. What made &quot;Dalek&quot; and &quot;Father&#039;s Day&quot; and &quot;The Doctor Dances&quot; so good was the the solutions to problems were either complex or carried emotional weight that was earned by the story and the characters, rather than just assumed. Maybe it was the fact that they had less money or that the series had to prove itself, but for whatever reason, the Eccleston episodes felt more complex, more mature than the Tennant ones.

I am totally in the camp of those who want Moffat to take over as head writer/executive producer when Davies leaves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to put my finger on my dissatisfaction with the series over the past few years and you helped me put some of my thoughts in perspective . . . so thanks!</p>
<p>I do think that the first series of the new Who felt more like a science fiction television series &#8211; the stories depended far more on the characters and their motivations than on simply solutions to complex problems. What made &#8220;Dalek&#8221; and &#8220;Father&#8217;s Day&#8221; and &#8220;The Doctor Dances&#8221; so good was the the solutions to problems were either complex or carried emotional weight that was earned by the story and the characters, rather than just assumed. Maybe it was the fact that they had less money or that the series had to prove itself, but for whatever reason, the Eccleston episodes felt more complex, more mature than the Tennant ones.</p>
<p>I am totally in the camp of those who want Moffat to take over as head writer/executive producer when Davies leaves.</p>
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		By: darknote		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darknote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[davies doesn&#039;t necessarily rewrite everyone&#039;s scripts other than moffat&#039;s.  Rather, he&#039;s gone on record to say that he has no qualms about rewriting anything if he doesn&#039;t like it.

which in a sense is his right as an executive producer, but it&#039;s unfortunate that he&#039;s decided to take his role in that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davies doesn&#8217;t necessarily rewrite everyone&#8217;s scripts other than moffat&#8217;s.  Rather, he&#8217;s gone on record to say that he has no qualms about rewriting anything if he doesn&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>which in a sense is his right as an executive producer, but it&#8217;s unfortunate that he&#8217;s decided to take his role in that way.</p>
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		By: Michael Natale		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Natale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Jules: Davies actually rewrites everyone&#039;s scripts but Moffats?  Ugh.  That explains alot.  This guy must be stopped.  

Another Davies quote:

&quot;I&#039;m sorry to say this, all the science fiction producers making stuff in America, they are way too engaged with their fandom. They all need to step back.&quot;

This is just *WRONG* on so many levels...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jules: Davies actually rewrites everyone&#8217;s scripts but Moffats?  Ugh.  That explains alot.  This guy must be stopped.  </p>
<p>Another Davies quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry to say this, all the science fiction producers making stuff in America, they are way too engaged with their fandom. They all need to step back.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is just *WRONG* on so many levels&#8230;</p>
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		By: Uncoomaalomi		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncoomaalomi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nice work, bro]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice work, bro</p>
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		By: Lon Sarver		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lon Sarver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While &lt;i&gt;The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky&lt;/i&gt; was my favorite two part story of New Who, I have to agree that the series has been weak in that regard.

The powers that be spend the first episode setting up the End of the World, and spend the second episode ignoring the implicaitons of the End of the World.  

I think that this is a product of RTD&#039;s focus on character shtick.  The global concerns raised previously are shoved into the background in order to give focus to personal interactions, reducing the global conflicts to background noise.

This can be a good way to tell a story, but not if it&#039;s the only way.  The audience gains an idea of where the characters are emotionally focused through where the director focuses the story, and what we end up with is the feeling that the Doctor isn&#039;t really concerned with the End of the World, he&#039;s more concerned with his latest flirtation/spat with the Current Companion.

This makes all the energy that Part One put into builiding up the conflict wasted effort.  And, consequentially, all the investment the viewer put into that conflict is also wasted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While <i>The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky</i> was my favorite two part story of New Who, I have to agree that the series has been weak in that regard.</p>
<p>The powers that be spend the first episode setting up the End of the World, and spend the second episode ignoring the implicaitons of the End of the World.  </p>
<p>I think that this is a product of RTD&#8217;s focus on character shtick.  The global concerns raised previously are shoved into the background in order to give focus to personal interactions, reducing the global conflicts to background noise.</p>
<p>This can be a good way to tell a story, but not if it&#8217;s the only way.  The audience gains an idea of where the characters are emotionally focused through where the director focuses the story, and what we end up with is the feeling that the Doctor isn&#8217;t really concerned with the End of the World, he&#8217;s more concerned with his latest flirtation/spat with the Current Companion.</p>
<p>This makes all the energy that Part One put into builiding up the conflict wasted effort.  And, consequentially, all the investment the viewer put into that conflict is also wasted.</p>
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		By: Jules		</title>
		<link>https://mendellee.com/2008/05/06/mutli-episode-stories-in-the-new-who/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spot on. Couldn&#039;t have said it better myself.

RTD admitted that the only scripts he doesn&#039;t re-rewite are Stephen Moffats. It&#039;s not by coincidence that his episodes are the best thusfar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. Couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.</p>
<p>RTD admitted that the only scripts he doesn&#8217;t re-rewite are Stephen Moffats. It&#8217;s not by coincidence that his episodes are the best thusfar.</p>
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